Miller vs. Piper on abortion

Sorry for the first two posts being about Don Miller, but I found these videos particularly interesting (courtesy of Timmy Brister)

Donald Miller: “Just deal with it”

John Piper: “Don’t mess with that”


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One response to “Miller vs. Piper on abortion

  1. noahbran

    It is first important to point out that Donald Miller is not addressing abortion as a pastor (like Piper) in this interview, but as a registered Democrat. This is a stark contrast and will cause one’s own interpretation of the differences in these clips to be even more radical. With that in mind it is easy to see that Don Miller is thinking more efficiently (by efficient I mean the path of least resistance) about the problem of abortion than Piper.

    It is evident Miller sees the work needed to correct a wrong decision like Roe V. Wade as improbable and therefore has elected to give this ground up in order to focus on prevention of pregnancies. He sees the work of outlawing abortions as fruitless and idealistic. On this point I can halfway agree. Though a follower of Christ should never stop fighting against abortions (Christianity is seemingly idealistic by nature), we need also to be working on either side of a pregnancy or abortion to make the Love of Christ known. And even though we have seen little legal results (Miller makes this a point concerning the Rep. party) progress should not be measured solely in terms of Amendments and Justice’s rulings. As Piper points out, Christians are making Christ’s love known in the form of pregnancy centers, parenthood centers, etc…

    Secondly, it seems confusing to me why Miller is sponsoring a fatherhood mentorship while he is at the same time supporting a party that bears the mantle of legal abortions. We need live babies to have good fathers.

    A third point of evaluation concerns Miller’s take on Democrats in general. He admits to Dems. mocking people of faith and even using evangelicals to further party lines, but then calls on the Democratic party to turn the other cheek when the role is reversed. This is very troubling when an evangelical would ever mock another person, but more than this, it is problematic to expect an unbeliever to follow in the “Way of Jesus” without having the rebirth that Jesus offers. This is impossible. To my astonishment, Miller halfway laughs at this notion himself as if admitting the contradiction, but leaves it as such.

    Overall, it seems Miller gives more time to defending his Democratic status than addressing the abortion controversy, and even on this note he tries to bring the principles of the kingdom of God to a platform that has rejected the authority of God. It is true that Republicans are in the same boat, though they may be on a better side concerning some issues. I appreciate Miller’s candidness concerning his disappointments with the Republican Party, but the issues of abortion or social justice will not be determined by a political party. Politically, change requires a bipartisan voting record based on individuals and practically, change is championed through preaching the Gospel of Christ while demonstrating self-sacrificing love to all.

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